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The Decades Channel

I would like to know when Spectrum NYC will provide the Decades Channel. It is now provided by WNYW-TV. It used to be provided by WCBS-TV. WCBS-TV dropped the channel for another channel START TV. When I call customer service, I am told that enough customers have to request the channel in order for Spectrum NYC to carry the channel. This does not make sense because the channel was not requested to be dropped. Did Spectrum NYC get many requests for the Decades Channel when it originally went on the air? If you have cable, you do not know about these channels unless you have an antenna. I know about this channel because I go online to find out about this channel.
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It seems the Spectrum channel request page has been disabled so you really should call and encourage others to call in as well to request that this channel be carried.

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Looking into this it is a sub-channel carried on Fox networks. We do not control what content those channels have or what sub-channels they provide.  You can read more about Decades here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decades_(TV_network)

 

Looks like that channel is available OTA   https://www.decades.com/wheretowatch/

 

Julia 

 

 

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It looks like as usual my email was not read. Why can’t Spectrum NYC get the decades channel. It should not matter that the cable company was called Time Warner when I had the Decades Channel. I pay a lot of money for cable I should not have to use an antenna to get a channel I want.
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@uncle1mike wrote:
It looks like as usual my email was not read. Why can’t Spectrum NYC get the decades channel. It should not matter that the cable company was called Time Warner when I had the Decades Channel. I pay a lot of money for cable I should not have to use an antenna to get a channel I want.

The FCC has decided that all broadcast stations and programming providers have the right to remove their content from any cable system that doesn't agree to pay their monthly subscriber carriage fees. The cable subscribers can't do anything about it, just pay the bill or drop the service. 

And to think I was upset when my son used to accuse our local PBS stations of holding his favorite programming hostage during their annual fund drives. 

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Why was the Channel Requests page removed?
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@karlbeckman wrote:

@uncle1mike wrote:
It looks like as usual my email was not read. Why can’t Spectrum NYC get the decades channel. It should not matter that the cable company was called Time Warner when I had the Decades Channel. I pay a lot of money for cable I should not have to use an antenna to get a channel I want.

The FCC has decided that all broadcast stations and programming providers have the right to remove their content from any cable system that doesn't agree to pay their monthly subscriber carriage fees. The cable subscribers can't do anything about it, just pay the bill or drop the service. 

And to think I was upset when my son used to accuse our local PBS stations of holding his favorite programming hostage during their annual fund drives. 


Hasn't it always been this way?  Or been this way for a long time since retransmission consent was adapted.  If providers can't reach a deal for a new contract, the stations have a right to drop the channel.

 

Thanks Julia for researching that this is a Fox Subchannel in the OP's market.  The user would have to reach out to Fox in his/her market and get several other people to do so, to begin negotiation with Spectrum for a new carriage deal.  But it has to be at a reasonable monthly rate.

 

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@Satch wrote:


Hasn't it always been this way?  Or been this way for a long time since retransmission consent was adapted.  If providers can't reach a deal for a new contract, the stations have a right to drop the channel.

 

Thanks Julia for researching that this is a Fox Subchannel in the OP's market.  The user would have to reach out to Fox in his/her market and get several other people to do so, to begin negotiation with Spectrum for a new carriage deal.  But it has to be at a reasonable monthly rate.


Decades in New York City (my DMA) used to be carried on WCBS-DT2 (2.2).  Many cable systems in the area carry channel 2.2, as I am sure it was a negotiated as such the last time Spectrum and CBS (the owner of WCBS-DT) made their deal.  The deal was to carry a feed of WCBS-DT2, not necessarily the content on WCBS-DT2 at the time of the agreement.

 

Decades was dropped from WCBS-DT2 and replaced with START-TV maybe a year ago (or more.)  On all cable systems in the NYC Area, the content was simply replaced.  A visit to the Decades website revealed they'd be back in NYC "real soon".

 

Fast forward towards the end of the summer, and it was announced that the local O&O Fox Affiliate (WNYW-DT), would be adding Decades to their over-the-air stream on WNYW-DT5.   This is a new, additional stream.  WNYW has the Fox 5 feed on -1, movies! on -2, LightTV on -4, and now Decades on -5.  You can receive all four feeds with an antenna in-market.

 

The issue at hand is that Spectrum (and I'd assume Fios, Altice, and Comcast) do not have retransmission agreements in place to carry the new, additional feed (-5, Decades), and probably have no intention of opening up that can of worms.  If they have a favorable fee negotiated, they could be forced to up payments if they add this new feed before the current term is out.

 

You can get "Decades" with an antenna.

 

If you want to make a difference, lobby your elected officials to divorce Broadcast OTA from PayTV's Basic Tier, and if an OTA Station wishes to collect retransmission fees, their station is removed from the Basic Tier and placed on an a-la-carte tier.  Write your OTA Stations and complain why you, their customer, should be forced to pay for content (because you are a pay TV subscriber) that they give away for free to those who use an antenna...

 

The short answer is, the cable company would love to give you the programming that you want.  Their existing carriage agreement does not include the content you want, and negotiating for that content puts existing agreements in jeopardy.  Hold your breath, and hope that the next time the carriage agreement for Fox O&O Stations comes up for renewal, that the Decades stream is included.  (And for all that we know, that programming might be elsewhere at that time...)

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The Decades Channel

Court Tv was just added to the line up. It is a channel that is broadcast by WPIX-TV in New York City. The decades Channel is carried by the local Fox channel WNYW. Why cannot the Decades channel be added to the line-up. Was  there an agreement between Spectrum and WPIX to carry Court TV? Why can't there be an agreement between WNYW and Spectrum to add the Decades Channel to the line-up?