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Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

I have a Home Theater PC (HTPC) with a dual tuner card QAM,digital analog capable.

It functions as a tuner and DVR with Windows Media Center on Win7 OS. Can I hookup signal from settop box to allow DVR function?

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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

only through trickery and then is will only record was is being played and that moment. I'm pretty sure the only way to get it to work the way you want is to add in a cable card tuner and rent a cable card. I would recommend checking on the on the AV forums they can probably tell you more.

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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

Actually, it can be done to some degree, depending on several factors. If TWC at your location still provides analog signals somewhere between 2 & 99, then you can just connect your HTPC tuner to receive and record them in SD. Your local channels should be available as QAM 64/256 signals in either SD or HD and they also should be available to your HTPC's tuner. There is certainly no harm in connecting your HTPC to the coax and see what channels may be available.

 

If you are talking channels other than standard, basic tier channels, a CableCARD tuner like the Ceton and Silicon Dust products, is required for your HTPC to access & record them on the HTPC.

 

Depending on your tuner card, some, like the Hauppauge HVR2250, have an IR transmitter that can be used to control your STB and output its signals to a apropriate inputs on your HTPC. This approach is full of potential problems and is likely not to properly receive HD material without a lot of diddling.

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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

TWC is eliminating the analog (basic cable) channels and they decided to make the QAM encrypted so you have to use (rent) their "basic cable set top box or boxes! Supposedly only $1 a month glitch is they only do SD digital  on either RF ch's 3/4 or thru their HDMI port. no scaling and the remote is pretty basic

 In 2015, TWC will make all "Cable ready" devices extinct with out a converter box. The other huge issue is if they pull the "press any key to resume program" crap, unattended recording is impossible via your theaters dvr

Pisses us off here when it happens in the middle of something and when you hit resume, the movies gone and you have to start from beginning and FF it.

On my Hauppauge card I only have the analog stuff and the qam music channels.

Pluss all devices will have mac addy's so nonpayment= turnoff

whereas now they have to send a tech to cut the line

 

 

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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

Even if you got 2 of the adapters and set one on ch 3 and the other on 4 and tried to combine them to the single connector on your card, being adjacent channels, the herringbone/ interference would be awfull, However if your card can do a rf and a composite with audio seperately and you want to watch and record on seperate channels that may work, however it's easier to simply use the multiple inputs on your tv to switch between the computer output and the HDMI from one of the converters. Only issue is they don't have seperate IR codes so you'll either have to mask them/ move them away from each other(I do not know if TWC is including the optional 3' remote IR pickups)

 or use something like a crestron and tape on ir senders The only issue on hdmi ports is that the sound is out of sync witth composite ports if you are using seperate sound than the TV's internal or if it doesn't have audio outs on it

 

 You are really better off with a HD cable box with hdmi for anything larger than a 32 or 37" anywayl, less artifacts and delayed pixels. best picture is an antenna right on the tv, especially for live sports.

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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

I have the Hauppage 2250 with IR. I have been running this system directly connected to TWC incoming cable line for over year.. It has worked great, but I cannot receive all channels subscribed to without a STB. I tried the Ceton Cable Card hardware, this hardware was fine. However every tech TWC sent out got glassy eyed when they saw this hardware and I really feel none of them knew anything about cablecards. Out of frustration I gave up on this and someone got a great deal on the  Ceton card on ebay. FYI this tuner card is excellent and video quality has been excellent. And while I am not a big Microsoft fan, the Media Center software supplied with WIN7 is really pretty decent.

 

I have given in to the STB, but still want to have DVR function. I rec'd the newer Samsung STB (H3362). It does not have setup info online yet. I believe the only solution may be to split the incoming cable feed to my HTPC and the STB. And if I want to record something my card cannot tune, I may just have to tune it from the STB to record. Ahhh, back in the day TV was simple!

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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

Yes...it's all about control isn't it. I was surprised on my new STB that it allows the quide to display only the channels you subscribe to, haven't seen that for a while. And programmable remotes are better than their's.

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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

I am happy as a clam with my Ceton InfiniTV PCIE4 and Windows 7 Media Center and XBox360 extenders. That PC also has a 2250, antenna connected for local OTA program material which is superior to local channels over TWC. The cost savings over four STBs drove me to this solution.
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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

i'm not saying cable cards are painless but if you can get through the frustation of getting it setup it's really the only thing that is really going to give you what you're looking for. You don't need any stb or anything to decode, that's what the cable card is for. The only thing you won't get is VOD.

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Re: Hookup to HTPC with dual tuner card - is this possible from settop box?

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@Ms Raye:

I'm newby cable-media tech in the throes of replacing VCR with htpc & have some questions:

1) Will the required (I'm told?) DTA pass thru all Basic QAM channels to an HTPC tuner card?


2) By what FCC rules is TWC allowed to begin charging an additional fee (for the DTA) to continue access to the Basic Plan I had been receiving & paying for with my subscription?

 

3) By what FCC rules is TWC allowed to: "In 2015, TWC will make all "Cable ready" devices extinct with out a converter box"? Will I have to devote a week to decoding pages of gov't-ese to uncover the relevant clauses or have these been well reported?

 

4) I've never heard of the "press any key to resume program crap".  Is this in use anywhere?

 

Would you please contribute to my project by way of answers, sources or advice to these issues?

 

Thanks for any time you can give to me; Klrdn