01-24-2014 03:49 PM
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01-24-2014 04:02 PM - edited 01-24-2014 07:20 PM
There is no longer "Basic Cable" it has been renamed and split into 2 tiers, Starter and standard cable.
some might presently be clear qam but most if not all will be encrypted as well as everything in tiers above
Those bottom 2 tiers require a DTA, cable card or cable box that decodes encrypted QAM.
unknown which if any are encrypted.
as for "broadcast"... that's not a good word to use as it would allow you to send video outside your home and probably get turned off if it even works in the first place. It can be bypassed by one computer set up as a server
what works today, may not tomorrow...
Ok, this one supposedly will work and uses cablecard but it doesn't require a dedicated PC as it's a network device:
01-24-2014 05:00 PM
01-24-2014 05:44 PM - edited 01-24-2014 07:07 PM
Yes, and the silicon dust Dual can do over the air ATSC on an antenna for your HD and maybe the few if any clear qam channels. You need the silicon dust prime apparently for encrypted qam, it also should do clear qam, will not do over the air atsc. you need both boxes to do all the above per the AVS forum and somewhat convoluted literature
However ALL DEVICES REQUIRE WINDOWS OS RUNNING MEDIA CENTER!
01-24-2014 06:54 PM
here's more on the Cetron...
My experience is a bit limited, but it sounds like you want to stream the programming from your cable card device to your three TVs. WMC (Windows Media Center) is the only program that can access the protected content from the cable card device. That's the bad news. The good news is a bit more convoluted.
Protected content can be broken into two groups, Copy Once content and everything else. Copy once content can be played on only the pc that records it (and on the "extenders" connected to that pc). All other content can be shared freely between your networked conputers. Since my cable provider only marks the HBO/SHOWTIME/etc., content as copy once, I can share most of the content that I watch accross my network without restriction. Others in this forum are not so lucky as they find that their cable provider marks most content as Copy Once.
As more cable providers move to marking more and more content as Copy Once, the only viable otpion (other than something illegal) is to use a WMC pc as a "server" providing content to extenders located at any TV that wants to view the protected content. Currently, the only options are the XBOX (which requires a subscription), some out of production extenters that can be found on ebay and the like, and the soon to be released Ceton Echo devices (much anticipated around here). The price for the Ceton devices is about the same as an XBOX, but no subscription is required. The full capabilities of these devices is still a subject of speculation regarding what video formats for movis etc., will be, but their capabilities for playing back recorded TV content from cable card devices is not a matter for speculation, they will play your content anywhere on your network. Reviewing the Ceton Echo Extender thread would give you a better idea of the pluses and minuses associated with these devices
01-24-2014 07:00 PM
It looks like the Silicon dust PRIME might fit the bill: but, I don't understand their use of both encrypted and non encrypted in the same paragraph unless it is meant to include both....
Compatible With: Windows Media Center (for use with encrypted or copy controlled content), Works with existing HDHomeRun Units, HDHomeRun PRIME can be added to your existing, TV sources: Unencrypted digital cable TV, Premium digital cable TV Three Tuners: Anywhere on Your Network QAM64/256 Works with popular DVR software
01-24-2014 07:15 PM
One other problem. No one here has a clue how your cable system is set up. TWC has no nationwide standard unlike Dish and DirecTV.
All TWC systems are supposedly dumping all analog by 2015.
lotsa mish mosh from competitors they bought out and billions in obsolete equipment
I'll bet we have 100+ seperate sytems here in Ohio alone!
just cuz it works on mine doesn't mean it will on yours or someone even in the next suburb
01-24-2014 09:34 PM
01-25-2014 06:01 AM
They need to get our first QAM data channel out of the FM broadcast band. 105.7, 106.5 and 107.9 trash it, also convert the next NTSC channel above to QAM use as it's trashed by the NTSC video.
when they clear all the NTSC off channels 2-6, then they can change out all the filters and amps and add in the 45-85 Mhz reverse channels. They could do 30+ Mbps upload today but it would trash everyone because the system is overloaded.
85-105 is a deadband, allowing the bidirectional filters some leeway, and Qam will go from 105-850+ mHz.
TWC is going to make all qam encrypted,
The term "Cablecard" is being improperly used.
It used to refer to a card in your PC. It is now a communications protocol on QAM that talks to internal, external, IP based and standalone QAM converters/receivers that may or may not have HD and or decription capability.
It also supports "copygard" to prevent recording on select channels as well as "Copy once".
Problem is IOS isn't licensed for encryption. whereas Mediacenter is.
So now there's all sorts of incompatability and since no 2 TWC systems are the same, support is limited to non existant.
01-25-2014 03:45 PM